The Amazing “Real Food” Meal Planning Service We Use

Take a look at the meal planning service we use, and see a week’s worth of tasty real-food meals! Plus, a Real Plans coupon bonus offer!

Written by Genevieve Howland
Updated on June 09, 2024

Ever get in a recipe rut?

Or have food in the fridge, but feel like there’s nothing to eat?

Or go to the grocery store, and find yourself buying the same things time after time?

Yeah, me too.

So I’ve been using an amazing meal planning service, and dinnertime has been transformed.

Scroll on to learn about the service – plus a special bonus offer from me if you’d like to try them.

The service is called Real Plans

Real Plans is a web site and mobile app that gives you over 2,000 carefully curated recipes to suit every taste and occasion.

To use Real Plans you simply:

Tell Real Plans who you are and what you like to eat
Adjust your custom meal plan for this week’s schedule
Head to the store with a perfectly planned grocery list
Use our recipes to cook delicious, nourishing meals
Sit back + relax with your family – you’re winning at life

How I Use Real Plans

I plan the meals at home using the awesome Real Plans App. At the store, I use the shopping list on my phone and then check off each item as I add it to my cart – no more forgetting to buy a key ingredient! You can also take pictures of hard to find products so your hubby will know exactly which butter you want him to buy 🙂

When I’m cooking, I look at the recipe directions on my phone – more convenient than using a computer in the kitchen.

Here are a week’s worth of dinners that I made using Real Plans

Mama Natural meal plans shrimp pasta Roasted tomatoes and shrimp and steamed broccoli

Mama Natural meal plans beef stew Moroccan lamb stew. Super yummy with cinnamon, cumin, and cilantro.

Mama Natural meal plans salmon salad Halibut with mango ginger chutney and sautéed kale.

Mama Natural meal plans roast chicken Roasted chicken with dijon sauce and simple salad

Mama Natural meal plans stew rice Thai coconut soup and steamed rice

See more of how Real Plans works in this video

Choose from Classic Healthy, Gluten/Dairy Free, Vegetarian plans and more

We are currently doing the Traditional or “real food” plan, but we do add vegetarian and paleo recipes when we feel like it. It’s easy to switch between plans too if you’d like to experiment. They’ve got Whole30, FODMAP, GAPS plans and more.

Real Plans have helped me…

Save time (no more scrambling to pull together a recipe)
Save money (now that I’m using all my ingredients, there are no more bags of wilted kale lost in my fridge 🙂 )
Feed my family a well-balanced and varied diet
Become adventurous in the kitchen, which is FUN!

Sign up for Real Plans and get a free book from me

If you think this could help your family, and you sign up for this meal planning service using my link, I will give you a free copy of my ebook, How To Save Money On Real Food. Just email your receipt to realplans AT mamanatural.com and I’ll send you a link to download the book!

So together, this package will help you plan amazing meals, and save money on the ingredients

➜ Check out Real Plans now and see if they’re a good fit for your family.

Bon Appétit!

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About the Author

Genevieve Howland is a doula and childbirth educator. She is the bestselling author of The Mama Natural Week-by-Week Guide to Pregnancy and Childbirth and creator of the Mama Natural Birth Course. A mother of three, graduate of the University of Colorado, and YouTuber with over 135,000,000 views, she helps mothers and moms-to-be lead healthier and more natural lives.

57 Comments

Flora Hearst Jan 14 at 5:51 pm

I shop at Farmers mkt so its hard to plan because I buy what looks good that is fresh and local.
Wish there was a plan that could manage that!

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Cassie Jan 17 at 3:08 pm

I think this looks so awesome!! I hate the actually planning part and feel like we’re always in a rut no matter how much I look at Pinterest! I am curious though, how do you know how much you will end up buying in groceries each week? I know that my family would use some help cutting down on waste a tiny bit, but our grocery budget is pretty tight! I guess you’d have to do the 10 day trial to find out?

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Arabella Apr 25 at 6:47 am

Does anyone use this app who lives in the UK? Think it seems like a fab idea but when items don’t transfer easily from country to country it completely takes the convenience out of the equation which is what makes this app seem so appealing. If anyone either uses this app in the UK or can recommend another one similar it would be greatly appreciated…thanks! 🙂

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- Lorraine Hundley Aug 26 at 10:52 am
  
  I love ❤️ how you seem to know me personally. I just sent my boyfriend to the store for the same things. I am a vegan basically because I love all Animals almost more than people. LOLS ? anyway yes my kale always seems to wilt and go bad because I don’t know what to do with it. I always eat bananas, silk, toast and eggs. Maybe gluten free oatmeal, broccoli, and a few juices plus blueberries and when I drink water I get digestion problems. Because I have fatty liver I think. And I did coffee enemas plus took lots of vitamins and minerals but that just made it worse I don’t understand why I do better not trying.
  
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Jamie Hopkins Dec 13 at 9:11 pm

Hello!
I’m wondering if anyone knows if Realplans can be linked to Instacart?
Thanks!

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- Genevieve Dec 14 at 10:37 am
  
  Not yet – but I know many people who use the two apps together and love it!
  
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Kristen Sep 22 at 11:51 am

I’m wondering if you can recommend a non toxic slow cooker, I’m trying to prepare more soups for my family and just began researching crock pots that don’t leech lead. Do you have any suggestions? Thanks so much!!

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- Genevieve Sep 26 at 1:31 pm
  
  Hamilton Beach is supposed to be the least toxic of the big, mainstream crock pots. VitaClay makes smaller clay based ones that are safe.
  
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  - Karie May 25 at 3:52 pm
    
    I just had professionals come to my house to test for lead. I asked them to test my crock pot brand slow cooker that I got at Walmart, and it came back with 0 lead. The tester tests more than surface lead.
    
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- Lisa Embree May 25 at 9:00 am
  
  Genevieve, what are your thoughts on the “Instant Pot” and safety/nutritional value? Thanks for all your awesome content!
  
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Haley Sep 8 at 8:42 am

Hi Mama Natural!

I am curious if you still use these meal plans and how they’ve been working in the long run? Are they easy to stick to, or do you end up going back to your favorite meals? I am a nurse working night shift and I’m looking for some interesting new meals for my hubs to enjoy while I’m gone! I’m sure things have been different with your recent move (congrats!) but I was just curious. Blessings to you and the crew!

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- Genevieve Sep 8 at 4:12 pm
  
  We go in and out of following them – but always miss them dearly when we fall out of the program! Now that we’re settled in our move, we’re gonna get started again. I particularly miss how they make grocery shopping so much simpler because I know exactly what to buy.
  
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- Mike64Denver Jun 8 at 7:36 pm
  
  I eat raw organic fruit, raw pastured eggs, and for a snack I take the most incredible stuff called ormus.
  
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Heather Jun 3 at 10:58 am

Are there any crock pot options as well? I work 12 hour nights, 3 nights a week, so on those days I am completely useless. Those are the days we always end up eating out, which is why we are not losing weight, or getting out of debt for that matter. So, I need at least 3 nights a week of either crock pot meals, or very quick meals. I am thinking we would do the Paleo plan. Do you think this would work for us?

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- Haley Sep 8 at 8:53 am
  
  Hi Heather! Funny – I just wrote a comment with a similar question. I too work 3-12hr evening shifts 7PM-7:30AM. Are you a nurse as well? I’m not sure if this is super helpful to you, but one thing that helps my husband and I out a lot is when I make one big meat dish at the beginning of the week and a variety of dishes to pair the meat with. Example – I will roast a chicken with herbs, lemon, and cultured butter and prepare a yummy quinoa salad, chop up veggies and lettuce, have a good whole grain (I like brown rice) pasta with veggies, and whole grain wraps ready to go. Then throughout my week, I have real, unprocessed food ready to be warmed up and eaten – just needing assembly. My husband loves this because if he gets off late and we can’t eat together before I leave, dinner is easy (and even kind of fun for him) to creatively assemble!
  
  I’m not sure if this seems like a good option for your family, it’s been a great way for us to keep processed junk out of our bodies and our home!
  
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Susan Chaisson Mar 6 at 8:50 am

I really would like to give up sugar. Could you do more videos on how you did it and what you eat now. Thank you. I love your videos.

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- Genevieve Mar 8 at 9:12 pm
  
  Here are a few of my posts about sugar: https://mamanatural.com/?s=sugar
  
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Chanda Jan 30 at 12:41 pm

Just wanted to know is there a lunch and breakfast option for meals without adding your own?

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- Genevieve Jan 30 at 3:55 pm
  
  Real Plans doesn’t generate lunch and breakfast options by default. You could go in the system and search for meals that you’d like to add for lunches. But we do find that most of the dinners leave us with enough leftovers for lunch the following day.
  
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Sarah H Nov 22 at 2:11 pm

I’m looking for a meal planner like this, but one that will also let me enter in my breakfast and lunches, and will keep track of what I buy at each store. I can’t tell from the video if realplans will do that. Do they?

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- Genevieve Nov 23 at 11:22 am
  
  Yep, Real Plans makes it easy to modify recipes plus add your own recipes. And you can keep track of exactly what you need to buy and what you’ve already bought at various stores. They fly through the interface for this briefly at about 1 minute into their overview video: http://bit.ly/realplans
  
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Erika M. Nov 22 at 1:34 pm

Hey Genevieve! I have a question. I am interested in this meal plan service, but I don’t have a smartphone. Will they let you print your grocery list, instead?

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- Genevieve Nov 23 at 11:46 am
  
  Yep, they’ve got a special print feature that formats the shopping list perfectly for your printer 🙂
  
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  - Erika M. Dec 2 at 3:04 pm
    
    Thank you! I joined and am loving it so far. This really does make life so much easier!! Probably my favorite feature is the adjustable serving sizes and how it adjusts everything automatically for you (even on your own recipes). I have never seen an app that does this. So helpful!!
    
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Sarah Nov 19 at 6:13 pm

Hey Mama Natural!
I just wanted to let you know how much I LOVE your website, but more importantly how much this post has saved my SANITY!!!

I’m the kind of girl who needs a plan and wants to feed my family the best food. Before Real Plans, that meant 2+ hours of meal planning and begging my husband to give me ideas of what he wanted to eat each week. I have a busy schedule so spending that much time on meal planning drove me crazy and didn’t leave much time for the people I love and the things that I love to do.

After using Real Plans for the past three weeks grocery shopping is fun again! I don’t worry about forgetting a key ingredient, I don’t have to endlessly search through the internet for recipes that may or may not turn out well, and most importantly meal planning takes me 20 minutes TOPS! Giving me more time to do things I love ( like watch Mama Natural videos 😉 )

Real Plans is SO worth every penny spent, the recipes are delicious, easy to make, and the app is so incredibly well thought out, using it is a breeze.

I have been reccomending Real Plans to everyone I know, so thank you Mama Natural for this awesome post and all your other posts that teach me new things and keep me going on the natural path

XO
Sarah

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- Genevieve Nov 22 at 10:13 am
  
  Wow, that is quite the testimonial! I’m gonna send it along to Emily and Antony, the husband-wife team behind Real Plans – I think it’ll make their day!
  
  Best wishes and happy eating to you!
  
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Malissa Nov 12 at 12:41 pm

We signed up and started this week and so far it has been GREAT! I originally had the setting for 4 people on the recipes (we have 3 kids 5 and under and are expecting our last) and the portion are HUGE!! I was freaking out over our grocery bill this week until I made the first 3 nights and realized that the portions, for us at least, are overkill. For example – the pot roast said a 5 lb roast for 4 people. We got a 3.5 lb roast and STILL had 1/2 left over. The meal plan does build in a “Leftover/Takeout” night automatically but I still think I am going to change the setting to 3 people for next week and see if it is still too much. We have LOVED our meals so far – pot roast, pork roast, and the honey dijon chicken were amazing! I even learned how to add in some of our favorite recipes so they get thrown into the rotation- our kids LOVE lamb keema so I had to be sure it’s in there. All in all we are very pleased with this meal planning service. $72 up front was a lot but we decided that we spend more than $6 a month on coffee shop coffee so we could can that and go for the meal plan. We are on the traditional, gluten free plan at the moment if anyone is curious. Thanks Mama Natural for your continued posts and efforts to make your site about your family and daily/weekly living and struggles! I am getting a little tired of all the controversy fueled by some of the other bloggers out there. I always look forward to you emails and videos!

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- Genevieve Nov 13 at 4:55 pm
  
  Thank you so much for taking the time to leave such a nice comment! Yes, there are definitely leftovers involved with Real Plans, which we love, as they become our lunch the following day. In fact, we recently *upped* the serving size so we could have leftovers for the whole family the next day.
  
  The Real Plans app is really cool, isn’t it? The add-your-own recipe feature is great. And, as I said in the video, the recipes have really stretched me as a cook. We love them.
  
  Again, thank you so much for the comment!
  
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Aisha Smith Nov 9 at 9:47 am

Once I can spare $6 a month for these plans I am so going to try them! I get so discouraged because I know my family needs the healthy food, but seriously, no matter how many places I explore, eating real food is still expensive and those unusual things that aren’t “staples” (for instance, salmon, coconut anything, [except coconut oil, I would die without it] are just NOT in my budget.) Seriously, I can barely keep the basics of cheap chicken and ground beef in my freezer at $3-$5/lb. Praise the Lord for my in – laws who freely share their meat from a local butcher! Buying salmon a $18/lb around here is sooo not happening!
EVERYTHING is too expensive!

OK now I want to go cry in a pillow.

=(

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- Genevieve Nov 22 at 10:17 am
  
  I hear you mama! We can do what we can do. Check out my budget tips on the blog! And, the nice thing about Real Plans is that you can modify so you don’t have to make the more expensive dishes that include salmon. XOXO!
  
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Fatima Nov 7 at 9:44 pm

Question – what if you like a meal, but you prefer brown rice over white rice or pears instead of pomegranate, for example. Can you change it on the “grocery list” in the app so it’s more accurate?

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- Genevieve Nov 13 at 4:58 pm
  
  You sure can. If you’re in the app, you click on a recipe, then go ACTIONS > MODIFY and you are able to add/modify/delete any ingredient and ingredient quantity. Then your shopping list is automatically updated. Nice, huh? Oh, and the app will save your preference for that recipe if you ever use the recipe again.
  
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Brittany Nov 7 at 5:05 pm

Hi Genevieve,

Part of the year we live out in a very small town – 60 miles off a dirt road from the nearest “town,” and 360 miles away from any semblance of normal life. We leave every few weeks for a food run. I’m still learning the ways on how to buy enough for a few weeks, without buying so much that we waste a lot of food (we’ve run out, and we’ve wasted food, sad to say). Do you know if this meal planner could help with that? For instance, do they have a “shops once a month” plan?

Thanks!

Brittany

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- Genevieve Nov 13 at 4:59 pm
  
  Hmm, not really. The Real Plans emphasis is on fresh produce, so I’m not sure how you’d get around that. You could probably buy for two weeks at a time and use some frozen meats and veg.
  
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Susan Nov 6 at 2:31 pm

Hi Mama- I hope you see this as I am not on FB to ask you over there. I looked all over Emily’s site because I was curious about 2 things: What’s a typical week of the groceries to buy all the ingredients for the recipes cost? I’ve seen posts by Emily in the past about how to shop for real food on a budget, but yet she then says she spends $250 a week. Umm, that’s crazy! It would give my hubby a heart attack!!!

Also, I like to actually see a recipe before I attempt it, not just the title of it. I couldn’t find anywhere on the site that shows me an example of some actual recipes. Am I overlooking something here? Thanks!

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- Genevieve Nov 13 at 5:00 pm
  
  They have photos of recipes on the various pages:
  
  Traditional recipes
  
  Paleo recipes
  
  Vegetarian recipes
  
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christine Nov 6 at 7:41 am

I love this idea especially if you’re stuck. I want to do this for more yummy ideas. I’m going to wait and see if I can save some grocery money and allot it to this. I’ve been checking into food nanny also. She’s got some really good advice and tips. I was just given a tip from a nice fed ex guy the other day. He said that his family calls the manufactuers of the food and products they already use and ask for coupons. They end up sending him great coupons like buy one get two for free of the things they already buy. Yeah I’m excited. I love saving money.
I had a food budget of $400.00 a month for two adults and one preschooler. I would always be throwing away food that wasn’t eaten up before it went bad. Now I’m going to the market every week and buying closer to what we actually eat. The main grocery store I go to about every two weeks and that’s Winco; they except manufacters coupons. Now that I’ve been doing this and actually making a menu my grocery budget is now $264.00 a month and I’m even able to work on food storage, seventy two hour kits, savings, and still have money left over within this smaller grocery budget. Yeah!

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- Vanessa J.I. Feb 16 at 5:48 am
  
  Love you comment, hoping you have a blog of how you were able to cut back and save that much money and also eliminate throwing away food that wasn’t used. I loathe throwing away food
  
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Laura Nov 4 at 10:07 pm

OMG – this is awesome! I signed up and am already impressed by the webapp they have created over at Real Plans. The real “wow” for me was when I added one of my own recipes it was SO SO easy. The copy/paste smartly removed bullets and weird formatting and then – the real “wow” – was that it intelligently picked out the ingredients, units of measure and amounts and notes for compiling the shopping list. There were just a few errors but they ask you to verify it. I was just shocked I didn’t have to modify more than 2-3 things. SERIOUSLY good find here Mama Natural. I’m excited to start using it and think I’m going to keep all my recipes in here. Really – for once – I just might save myself some time and insanity with meals!

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- Genevieve Nov 5 at 9:47 am
  
  Oh my goodness, so glad you like too! Thank you for sharing. I really work to ONLY share the best of the best here. I want you all to be just as happy and healthy and pleased with services, products, etc. as I am 🙂 XOXO
  
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Dana Nov 4 at 7:16 pm

This looks great. Are the meals simple to make? What is the average prep time? Thank you!

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- Genevieve Nov 5 at 9:46 am
  
  Great question! They definitely take longer than scrambled eggs and cucumber slices. Some are quick… like 20 minutes or so. Others take a little more planning but I find that it helps me prioritize good meals and I create the space. There is also “passive” time like baking or simmering sauces or squash. You can see how long the prep/cook time is for each recipe and find recipes that work for your schedule too.
  
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Tara Nov 4 at 6:42 pm

Hey Genevieve, I’m curious what kind of vegetarian meals are available. We are mainly vegetarian, but do avoid soy unless it’s fermented. Have you been able to view the vegetarian recipes and could you give me an idea of what types there are? This would be the ultimate deciding factor for us.

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- Genevieve Nov 5 at 9:36 am
  
  Hey Tara! I do know that these plans are very WAPF and real food focused so they would never include soy, unless it was fermented. I haven’t made a bad recipe yet! Sooooo yummy and flavorful. Here is an example of a Vegetarian week:
  
  SUNDAY – Spaghetti Squash ‘Pasta’ with Creamy Parmesan and Marinated Green Beans
  MONDAY – Jamaican Jerk Tempeh Wraps with Lime Mayo
  TUESDAY – Chinese Chop Salad
  WEDNESDAY – Zucchini Spinach Soup
  THURSDAY – Quinoa & Roasted Asparagus Salad with Soft Boiled Eggs
  FRIDAY – Pizza Night
  
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  - Tara Nov 5 at 9:45 pm
    
    Thank you! This is SO helpful! 🙂
    
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Kristen P. Nov 4 at 5:38 pm

I signed up using the link you provided. How do I get my free e-book? Thanks!

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- Genevieve Nov 6 at 11:59 am
  
  Just email your receipt to this email address:
  
  realplans AT mamanatural.com
  
  Thanks!
  
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Erin Nov 4 at 4:28 pm

Meal planning, for me, is fun. I actually love the constant browsing and trying new things off Pinterest. I pin new recipes off and on all week, and then read them and compile a list the day before I shop. And I like how I can just search “grain free pizza” or “turnip recipes” and there are always a zillion of them to choose from.

That said, it’d be cool if some of these meal planning services had an a la carte option. Like, MOST weeks I love meal planning. But there is always that crazy week once a month when I just don’t get around to it, and suddenly, we’re out of food. It’d be nice to click “Give me some ideas!” $6 a month is almost cheap enough just for that…

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- Genevieve Nov 5 at 9:37 am
  
  You’re awesome! I love the $6 price tag too. They’ve added a lot of value to our family already 🙂 AND, I love that it makes shopping so easy!
  
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Monique Gibbons Nov 4 at 4:19 pm

I love the idea I just wish they had a vegan option for meals

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- Erin B. Nov 4 at 8:47 pm
  
  I got the impression that once you were signed up you can alter your preferences, so you could choose the vegetarian menu and opt to be dairy and egg free..but I could be wrong!
  
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Maggie Nov 4 at 2:28 pm

Yay for more recipe ideas and pictures of the food you have made! I’m always needing inspiration so I don’t end up picking up the same food items time after time.

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- Genevieve Nov 5 at 9:38 am
  
  🙂 I’ll keep posting more of what we make 🙂
  
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Rebeka Nov 4 at 2:18 pm

6$ a year nice price. But I can plan my menus for free 🙂

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- Michele Nov 4 at 3:19 pm
  
  It’s $6 a month…. higher if you pay by month instead of paying for the whole year. I would love to have someone plan my meals for me but my budget is tight with my adoption fees.
  
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  - Rebeka Nov 4 at 9:55 pm
    
    michele, you are right. I did not pay attention well. I have student loan to pay, so i have to watch what I am doing.
    
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- Genevieve Nov 5 at 9:38 am
  
  You go mama!
  
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The Amazing “Real Food” Meal Planning Service We Use

The service is called Real Plans

How I Use Real Plans

Here are a week’s worth of dinners that I made using Real Plans

See more of how Real Plans works in this video

Choose from Classic Healthy, Gluten/Dairy Free, Vegetarian plans and more

Real Plans have helped me…

Sign up for Real Plans and get a free book from me

Bon Appétit!

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